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Old 02-13-2020, 04:06 AM   #1
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Angry Whatís wrong with this picture?

This photo explains it all.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:10 AM   #2
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I was wondering why my rig was losing power multiple times a day.

This is really a simple Math equation.

The picture in the first post is 1.

This picture is +1
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:12 AM   #3
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Those two pictures =
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:24 AM   #4
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This is just demonstrating how well it works. My EMS kept disconnecting my rig over the past couple of days. This explains why. Something must REALLY be wrong as it is in the low 60ís so no one has A/Cs on nor is there a large demand on the parks system.
The haters of the Hughís Autoformer would be sitting in the dark, if they had a monitoring system or they could be causing damage to there electronics and motors on there rig.
So to me, this is a mandatory tool to carry.
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:27 AM   #5
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The autoformer needs to be IN FRONT OF the EMS to prevent EMS turnoff.
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Old 02-13-2020, 01:47 PM   #6
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I'm not sure if I agree with your assumption that 'others...would be sitting in the dark', as I'm sure no one else in the same park has lost power. I also don't necessarily agree that 'just because' your voltmeter shows what you consider as 'low voltage', really is low voltage. Most any appliances or electronics have plenty of wiggle room when it comes to the variances in voltage, and are designed to handle it.

No, there's no 'haters' about using various devices, if it makes you feel good and let's you sleep easier at night, but the very vast majority of RV owners don't use them, and aren't 'in the dark', either.

Just like in anything in life, there are possibilities for 'everything you can imagine', but the reality is that the PROBABILITY is very, very slim, and well overstated by a few.


100,000+ miles over 5+ years and never any 'device' onboard or at the pedestal or any issues or problems...and we've seen a LOT of campground, rv parks, and private electrical situations where you might 'assume' there could be an issue - whether in the humidity-filled heat of the summer, or the wild low temps of the winter, or where the 'brother-in-law' is the 'electrician'. : ) It's all good, nobody's a hater.
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RV'ers wont be sitting in the dark. Lighting is 12 volts. Low voltage will not effect most modern electronics . They have a large voltage swing tolerance. No use for an autoformer there. What will happen is RV'ers will be sitting in the heat because low voltage can and will over time destroy an A/C compressor and residential fridges.

Low voltage and electric motors don't play nice!
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My guess is most who claim to never have a problem just don't know when they do.


rynosback, do you have a method for theft protection?
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:39 PM   #9
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Mine is installed in the cord reel compartment. It's plug n play.

Camco 50A ends. I secured it from moving around with a couple pcs of 1/2" "L"



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I'm just about to be ready to install reels for macerator and power and shore water.
Do you find value in yours?
Oddly, I already have self retracting, not motor powered reels, you know the kind that clicks and spring winds itself, just sitting around(I attend far too many auctions).

But I hesitate due to the huge sizes I have.

While considering the motored units I can't see a value in having to hold down a button while the line, water or electric, drags itself back through the grass and dirt. But, I haven't had the chance to speak with anyone who uses such a reel on purpose, not just because it came with the coach and they're married to it.

I want them, due to want and a perceived convenience, but are they convenient in retracting or just convenient as a reel?
We don't hook up at a site for very long. We dump a tank, fill a tank and don't stay hooked up the whole camp time. We hook to shore power only as a convenience since it's there.

Yup, it's a hijack.
The religion associated with that electrical box is exactly that, religion, on both sides.
No one will sway.
If you have the money, buy the peace of mind and quit recruiting and justifying.
If you don't want one, quit the conversation or just post a link to the last three no-win conversation threads.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:58 PM   #11
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The autoformer needs to be IN FRONT OF the EMS to prevent EMS turnoff.
Thanks, Iím aware of that. My EMS is hardwired and the Autoformer is plugged in at the pedestal.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:02 PM   #12
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My guess is most who claim to never have a problem just don't know when they do.


rynosback, do you have a method for theft protection?
I completely agree with that. Some people do not get surge protectors until, they are hit with one and takes out hundreds or thousands of $$ worth of there equipment (anything electronic plugged in). I carry an Autoformer as an insurance policy that I do not need to renew annually.

Yes, it is locked to the pedestal by cable or chain with a lock. They are way to expensive to leave them unlocked.
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"My EMS is hardwired and the Autoformer is plugged in at the pedestal."

Not for long!!!
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:13 PM   #14
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RV'ers wont be sitting in the dark. Lighting is 12 volts. Low voltage will not effect most modern electronics . They have a large voltage swing tolerance. No use for an autoformer there. What will happen is RV'ers will be sitting in the heat because low voltage can and will over time destroy an A/C compressor and residential fridges.

Low voltage and electric motors don't play nice!
I think you took my sitting in the dark to seriously. This post was really just posted to show the effectiveness of the Autoformer and how well it works. Sorry that did not come across that way as I intended. The point is that they would not have power coming in from the pedestal if they had some sort of monitoring system.
As 105v is way to low.

ďIn the United States and Canada, national standards specify that the nominal voltage at the source should be 120 V and allow a range of 114 V to 126 V (RMS) (−5% to +5%). Historically 110 V, 115 V and 117 V have been used at different times and places in North America.Ē
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:24 PM   #15
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I'm not sure if I agree with your assumption that 'others...would be sitting in the dark', as I'm sure no one else in the same park has lost power. I also don't necessarily agree that 'just because' your voltmeter shows what you consider as 'low voltage', really is low voltage. Most any appliances or electronics have plenty of wiggle room when it comes to the variances in voltage, and are designed to handle it.

No, there's no 'haters' about using various devices, if it makes you feel good and let's you sleep easier at night, but the very vast majority of RV owners don't use them, and aren't 'in the dark', either.

Just like in anything in life, there are possibilities for 'everything you can imagine', but the reality is that the PROBABILITY is very, very slim, and well overstated by a few.


100,000+ miles over 5+ years and never any 'device' onboard or at the pedestal or any issues or problems...and we've seen a LOT of campground, rv parks, and private electrical situations where you might 'assume' there could be an issue - whether in the humidity-filled heat of the summer, or the wild low temps of the winter, or where the 'brother-in-law' is the 'electrician'. : ) It's all good, nobody's a hater.
So you would have no issue plugging into a source of power that is sitting at 105v?
I personally would not plug into that with out an Autoformer to boost the voltage.
“In the United States and Canada, national standards specify that the nominal voltage at the source should be 120 V and allow a range of 114 V to 126 V (RMS) (−5% to +5%). Historically 110 V, 115 V and 117 V have been used at different times and places in North America.”

The whole point of this post is to show low voltage and how the Autoformer takes way to low voltage and boosts it to an acceptable voltage (with in limits set by National Standards).
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:26 PM   #16
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"My EMS is hardwired and the Autoformer is plugged in at the pedestal."

Not for long!!!
That is true.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:42 PM   #17
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I'm just about to be ready to install reels for macerator and power and shore water.
Do you find value in yours?
Oddly, I already have self retracting, not motor powered reels, you know the kind that clicks and spring winds itself, just sitting around(I attend far too many auctions).

But I hesitate due to the huge sizes I have.

While considering the motored units I can't see a value in having to hold down a button while the line, water or electric, drags itself back through the grass and dirt. But, I haven't had the chance to speak with anyone who uses such a reel on purpose, not just because it came with the coach and they're married to it.

I want them, due to want and a perceived convenience, but are they convenient in retracting or just convenient as a reel?
We don't hook up at a site for very long. We dump a tank, fill a tank and don't stay hooked up the whole camp time. We hook to shore power only as a convenience since it's there.

Yup, it's a hijack.
The religion associated with that electrical box is exactly that, religion, on both sides.
No one will sway.
If you have the money, buy the peace of mind and quit recruiting and justifying.
If you don't want one, quit the conversation or just post a link to the last three no-win conversation threads.
WOW! All I have to say is WOW!
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:43 PM   #18
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Iím so glad that some people got the gist of what I was posting.
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Old 02-16-2020, 09:48 PM   #19
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Mine is installed in the cord reel compartment. It's plug n play.

Camco 50A ends. I secured it from moving around with a couple pcs of 1/2" "L"





Iíve been wanting an Autoformer. I donít really like the idea of having it outside the trailer though. I like the way you have it tucked into your compartment. I need to take some measurements to see if it would fit in mine.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:21 PM   #20
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Iíve been wanting an Autoformer. I donít really like the idea of having it outside the trailer though. I like the way you have it tucked into your compartment. I need to take some measurements to see if it would fit in mine.
Nor sure why it would not work.
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