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09-17-2020, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 3,991
THOR #6411
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Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
Look at the drawing in post #23. Your dog bone is only linked to one leg of the 50A outlet and that is exactly what the 30A outlet does - connect one leg of the power grid’s 240V service. You won’t hut anything and your RV won’t know the difference.
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Not really true. All circuit breakers are made to protect the wire coming from them (down stream). How is a 50 amp circuit breaker protecting the 30 amp (rated) dog bone plugs, shore line, coach receptacle, connection wire and ATS from over current damage?
You are relying on a down stream circuit breaker which is against every electrical code. We all do it, but I know the risk and willing to take it because of the convenience of carrying 50 ft of 10 awg extension cord instead of a 8 awg 4 wire extension cord for those rare occasions.
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2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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09-17-2020, 10:21 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Winnebago Travato 59G
State: Alabama
Posts: 4,831
THOR #6826
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Originally Posted by Beau388
Not really true. All circuit breakers are made to protect the wire coming from them (down stream). How is a 50 amp circuit breaker protecting the 30 amp (rated) dog bone plugs, shore line, coach receptacle, connection wire and ATS from over current damage?
You are relying on a down stream circuit breaker which is against every electrical code. We all do it, but I know the risk and willing to take it because of the convenience of carrying 50 ft of 10 awg extension cord instead of a 8 awg 4 wire extension cord for those rare occasions.
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Good point. But absent a fault somewhere the coach won’t be able to tell the difference.
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09-18-2020, 12:39 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 141
THOR #15410
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We have an autoformer as well but it will only help so much
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09-18-2020, 12:55 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Can you tell us how much it can "prop up" the voltage?
What are it's limits?
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09-18-2020, 12:58 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Originally Posted by beau388
not really true. All circuit breakers are made to protect the wire coming from them (down stream). How is a 50 amp circuit breaker protecting the 30 amp (rated) dog bone plugs, shore line, coach receptacle, connection wire and ats from over current damage?
You are relying on a down stream circuit breaker which is against every electrical code. We all do it, but i know the risk and willing to take it because of the convenience of carrying 50 ft of 10 awg extension cord instead of a 8 awg 4 wire extension cord for those rare occasions.
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09-18-2020, 01:09 AM
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#46
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
What is that electronic management system that can help to boost the voltage?
AutoFormer?? 
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EMS and Autoformer are two different things. EMS can not boost voltage. Autoformer cannot turn Electric on and off.
HughesAuto former boosts Electric 10% when boosting. I do not know the upper and lower limits.
Go here and do some research https://hughesautoformers.com/
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09-18-2020, 01:11 AM
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#47
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Thanks! 
I only knew that they basically addressed two different issues.
10% is the answer I was looking for,
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09-18-2020, 02:23 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Winnebago Travato 59G
State: Alabama
Posts: 4,831
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Thanks!
I only knew that they basically addressed two different issues.
10% is the answer I was looking for, 
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And, I believe it boosts when voltage drops below (or to) 116.
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09-18-2020, 11:13 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 141
THOR #15410
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Hugh's autoformer can boost power 10% according to the information,which was still not enough in my case.
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09-18-2020, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Winnebago Travato 59G
State: Alabama
Posts: 4,831
THOR #6826
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Originally Posted by Connieb
Hugh's autoformer can boost power 10% according to the information,which was still not enough in my case.
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Should have been. If you were at 98-100V a 10% increase would take you back into safe territory.
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09-18-2020, 12:33 PM
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#51
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Perhaps it depends on the electrical devices that they were trying to use.
Some stuff can be a bit fussy...
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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09-18-2020, 05:02 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 141
THOR #15410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
Should have been. If you were at 98-100V a 10% increase would take you back into safe territory.
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Not really,30 amp power, my surge protector shuts down at 102v the power had alot of fluctuation ,it actually went up to 132 at one point. This is dangerous to me.
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09-18-2020, 05:36 PM
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#53
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Connieb
Not really,30 amp power, my surge protector shuts down at 102v the power had alot of fluctuation ,it actually went up to 132 at one point. This is dangerous to me.
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Wow! Where are you staying??
I think that I'd find someplace else!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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09-18-2020, 06:18 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 141
THOR #15410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Wow! Where are you staying??
I think that I'd find someplace else!
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Lake Kissimmee State Park Florida. They have finally gotten approved for upgrade to the electric, haha now to do it. It is a nice park.
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09-18-2020, 06:36 PM
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#55
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I hope that they get the upgrade done soon!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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09-18-2020, 07:39 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 141
THOR #15410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I hope that they get the upgrade done soon! 
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Me too, but the way the state works I doubt it, I did write the state a letter about it though.!
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09-18-2020, 08:46 PM
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#57
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Tell them that your RV had an electrical fire, and want to know which State Department is going to pay for the damagea
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09-19-2020, 12:01 AM
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#58
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Connieb
Not really,30 amp power, my surge protector shuts down at 102v the power had alot of fluctuation ,it actually went up to 132 at one point. This is dangerous to me.
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My trans boots to 132 all the time but the minute something is turned on it goes south. Very bad small wiring problem. The owner rewired the park not knowing what he was doing.
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