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06-08-2019, 10:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 23TR
State: California
Posts: 981
THOR #6701
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With cars becoming smaller and electric I think the days of huge numbers of RV sales will soon be on the decline. RV parks that invest in the cabin style camping will become more popular.
If I were 30 years younger I believe I would invest in small comfortable cabins in wilderness settings reachable by mass transportation and short rental car drives. All solar powered of course.
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DW, Daughter and 2 dogs, Sofie (black lab/boxer) and Phoebe (schnoodle)
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06-08-2019, 11:10 PM
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#42
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Nevada
Posts: 24
THOR #10325
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I have a few Millennnials
I have a few Millennials, they are called grand children and guess what? They are people, as they grow older they will want the same things we the older generations want and need so all I can say about the manufacturers accommodating the Millennials is BullXhit. The engineers will work with what is selling, do the surveys and modify working with information they gather. Smaller higher quality HAH. Lets look at all generations and remember we all love Quality and SIZE DOES MATTER. Ask my wife she Required 1.5 Bathrooms. Got kids????? Go ahead buy a smaller Rig. Regrets that is what they will bring in their baggage along the road through life. Ok Enjoy life and move on.......HAH>>>>> :-)
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Originally Posted by Chance
Interesting opinions on what millennials want in an RV:
Start with better design
Build smaller
Focus on quality
Look to Europe
Provide more gear storage
Etc....
https://www.curbed.com/2019/5/31/186...e-camping-tips
I have a hard time thinking that what millennials want is all that different from many others in different age groups. Additionally, not everyone within an age group wants the same, including millennials.
Some of the article seems superficial, but a lot of it resonates with me. Who doesn’t want a smaller, higher quality, more functional and elegant RV that is nice to look at?
What do you think? Are millennials and what they want from an RV really that different? According to Thor CEO millennials will be a significant group of buyers within 5 years, and Thor must adjust.
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06-09-2019, 01:21 AM
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#43
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Ohio
Posts: 4
THOR #7927
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My two cents. The oldest Millennial is 38. IMHO I would say that the oldest Millennial is about 10-15 years away from buying any type of motor home and that is assuming they have the money. We need to be honest with ourselves and understand that Boomers are financially better off than either their parents or their children. I do agree that for the price the current quality of motor home is shoddy. It reminds me of American cars just prior to the Japanese invasion that kicked the American car maker’s butt in quality.
There will be fewer Millennials in the future that will be able to afford a motor home purchase, but those that will be able will certainly demand higher quality than what us Boomers have settled for.
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06-09-2019, 02:47 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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I don’t think millennials are all that different as human beings go, but the amount and speed of information and communication is so different than when older RVers (baby boomers) were their age that they want different things.
I’m not judging whether it’s better or not to seek adventure rather than sit comfortably in a large RV parked in a crowded campground, but I do think that if you’re planning to go to remote locations, you might want to reconsider bringing along a 40~45 foot diesel pusher. Downsizing (perhaps a lot of downsizing) may be necessary.
When I see pictures like this, it makes me want to do the same.
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06-09-2019, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Tuscany 36 MQ
State: Indiana
Posts: 938
THOR #6280
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You are all forgetting one thing. Millennials will one day be just like us. As we grew older and discovered there was on utopia, free or unicorns so too will they. Sure it my take them longer but they will eventually experience through real life that it will not be the peace, love, party fest they envisioned but work, sacrifice and commitment that builds a prosperous life. They will just get their gig started late, screwed up and do a few restarts. They will come around, every generation has. Bob's got the most correct answer as the what RV they want. They want the one mom and dad buys for them FREE.
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Traveling with Shih Tzu's Baily, Bella and Maltese Buster. Towing, Golf Cart, Harley or Polaris RZR. 3 of our darling Shih Tzu's passed away recently and I just can't take them off of here. RIP Baxter, Baili & sweet sweet Bella. Buster is our little rock.
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06-09-2019, 03:55 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I agree with your assessment: they are doomed to be just like us!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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06-09-2019, 04:05 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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In fairness to millennials, I would have taken a free motorhome also; except my parents were too poor to even buy themselves one. Before my (boomer) generation, owning a motorhome was a real luxury.
Regarding millennials’ interest in smaller RVs, in my opinion it’s just getting back to normal after we boomers “supersized” RVs, just like we supersized houses, meals, etc. I think the pendulum is just swinging back a bit in opposite direction, and is nothing to get alarmed about.
Checking out PPL once in a while, I’m occasionally reminded that typical motorhomes of just 25 years ago were much smaller, and could pass for a small Axis-size today. They look tiny by comparison. With modern design and technology that size could be even more spacious and comfortable. Just saying that millennials wanting smaller rigs isn’t that strange.
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06-09-2019, 04:18 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Nothing is more expensive; than something that is "Free".
It costs you:
a sense of accomplishment
a sense of pride in what you can buy for yourself
a sense of duty to the giver of the RV
Since the RV cost noting: it has no real value to you
I figured out a long time ago; that I can't afford the best of everything: but I can afford to buy what I really want!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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06-09-2019, 04:50 PM
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#49
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Originally Posted by Calico
I couldn't agree more. I've stated it here in the past that this generation has no desire to 'adult'. They don't buy cars; they Uber... they don't buy homes; they rent (no insurance payments on either)... they don't marry and have a family; they shack up and get a dog. "Responsibility" is a thing of the past... OUR generations past.
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You’ve got that right! It’s a brave new world....
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06-09-2019, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I agree with your assessment: they are doomed to be just like us!
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I don’t suppose that’s a good thing....!
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06-09-2019, 05:06 PM
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#51
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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At least we can rest safe: knowing that they'll also be grumbling about "The Youth of Today..."
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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06-09-2019, 05:35 PM
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#52
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Who doesn't want a free RV? (come on now! You'd take one if it was offered)
Speaking of free--yeah I know I've posted this before but it is relevant LOL
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06-10-2019, 02:19 PM
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#53
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Nevada
Posts: 24
THOR #10325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Long & Winding road
I agree with most of what you say..... Except elimainating propane. Propane is cheap and clean burning. I love using propane for my frig and stove. Plus its much cheaper than solar and the extra batteries needed to run stuff without propane. Not to mention lighter than 4 or 6 batteries and panels etc.
Sure I would love to be more "Green" but IMO we are not there yet. As battieries get better, cheaper, and lighter they will trickle down the the RV's then we can eliminate propane (Perhaps even the engine and replace with electic motor).
Everyone likes the big windows and skylights but they come at a price of efficiency. But using the cermic tint on all my windows (including the Windsheild) helps greatly.
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Propane, electric and Gasoline all pollute. In 500 years if we were to cut all use of fossil fuels the world will still end due to the earths normal cycles. The impact may speed things up but keep in mind as weather patterns and climate changes the earth will cleanse itself no matter what we do so relocate to the environment that fits your needs and deal with the changes. So we go green and the rest of the world continues. The impact of a small group might make a change but in the long term do we actually make a difference? Millennials may think we can make a difference. It is all well and good that we make wind mills that produce clean energy but the carbon produced to manufacture those windmills and solar panels can run 50 to 100 years worth of carbon, then how much carbon is created to maintain and replace the devices???? Any modification will be null and void when forest fires spew out carbon, Volcano's. Car, Trucks, RV's account for a minimal contribution compared to natural occurring events. Live life, enjoy it, modify adopt and be happy. Thew RV manufacturers are going to target who ever keeps them alive.
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06-10-2019, 05:44 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Quantum RW28
State: Florida
Posts: 149
THOR #15031
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
Sure its called a TARDIS (geek joke ).
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Perfect analogy Jamiegeek!
Jeff
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06-11-2019, 04:53 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 27K
State: Oklahoma
Posts: 52
THOR #6418
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I was reading the other day about why Millennials live with parents or room mates and are not getting married. The article said that they cannot afford anything else. Their net worth is about $8,000 on average, down 34% from 10-15 years ago. They are not buying RVs for the same reason. Remember, real wages have not gone up since the 60's. Inflation has more than made up for wages going up.
Frank
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2015 Thor Windsport 27K TST 507 Tire Monitors
2012 Jeep Liberty Jet, 2 1/2 inch lift, Hopkins towd wiring, Blue Ox baseplate, ReadyBrute Hercules W/ReadyBrake
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