Omni/Magnitude XG32 info

[chunker21]

I'm considering going to a C or Super C as my next RV method and recently looked at and drove an Omni XG32. I have been leery of Thor branded RVs based on some specific observations and the many comments see on the various forums. Yes I know that bad news travels fast. 2nd issue was the coach is at a CW/Gander RV and they, the company not necessarily this store, have a deservedly bad reputation.

I started my "C search" a few months ago researching and reading what was relevant. I initially was thinking a smaller C, perhaps a sprinter based but that idea was quickly squashed due to cramped interiors and puny towing capability. Winnebago was high on the list due to my previous experience with ownership of an Itasca Horizon DP. FR got consideration since my GF has a FR Crusader 5th wheel that's mostly our "cabin" on the bayou in NW FL. I also looked at an Entegra Esteem, Winnebago Cambria. I went to look at a Minnie Winnie 31K at the CW and also a Thor Omni. The Omni XG32 is the biggest C I've looked at and longer than our initial desires but it's hard to fit what we want and "need" into 27'. I was expecting the worst as quality and what I saw pleasantly surprised
me. I've also read all the posts I can find on this and other forums and the preponderance of owners are pleased with the Omni/Magnitude.

That said I'm on a trip from AL to AZ and back and plan to look at a variety of RVs (C) and hope posters here can give some tips on what to look for and ideas based on personal experiences.

[Judge]

I started shopping for Super C's two years ago and went through many models. My goal was to find a coach around 35 feet. If I wanted to spend the money and in terms of the best quality and workmanship for a Super C under $350K, my first choice would have been a Dynamax Force HD 34. My second choice would have been a Rengagde Valencia or Verona.

I am very intriqued by the Dynamax Europa that will be released this year at around 31 feet.

That being said, the best bang for the buck for me was the Thor Magnitude. The SV34 had the floor plan that worked best for us..... king bed..... outdoor kitchen.... plenty of storage..... large shower. The F550 is also a very solid chassis for a Super C. The Magnitude had some draw backs but with the features for the price and the floor plan we decided it should work for us and went that route.

I bought the SV34 in October 2020. We have had a fair amount of issues but nothing unexpected just knowing the industry. Many issues I have taken care of myself. Thor even sent me parts under warranty several times and I did my own repairs. I also used the Thor Factory Service Center in Wakarusa for major work. I am pleased with Thor's customer service and why I bought a second Thor product. I will never rely on a dealer so to me it is about how well the manufacturers will take care of me.

Whether you spend $150K or your spend $500K or more, there is one gurantee. Every coach will have some issues. I've read about people spending over $500K and having major water leaks and other failures.

You might have a challenges finding inventory at some dealers. But if you want the best deal, then got to Alverado, TX and stop at Motorhome Specialists RV. They had an XG32 listed for $170K but it is Sale Pending. They have a 2022 on order listed at $177K.

I purchased my coach from General RV in Canton, OH and told them I was ready to fly down to Texas to buy from MHSRV and they matched their price.

[Bob Denman]

Welcome to the forum, and remember: the shopping is the fun part!

(That it: until the camping part starts... )

[bandi]

Originally Posted by Judge

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I purchased my coach from General RV in Canton, OH and told them I was ready to fly down to Texas to buy from MHSRV and they matched their price.

I did the same for mine (on order still)... I hit up some dealers (which I saw had good prices listed online) for their deal offer', then I checked with my locale Thor dealer who matched it, and I don't have to do a cross country fly/drive. I found that the price that is advertised online is only what they 'can' show, but they can go lower....

[kwplot34]

Purchased an Omni XG32 last year and absolutely love it. The F550 chassis is very comfortable to drive and power to spare. We had a few small issues which any RV you purchase is going to have, took care of most of them myself and had 1 fixed under warranty.
We drove from Mo to FL to trade in our previous motor home for this one, purchased it at Lazy Days in Tampa.

[chunker21]

Originally Posted by bandi

I did the same for mine (on order still)... I hit up some dealers (which I saw had good prices listed online) for their deal offer', then I checked with my locale Thor dealer who matched it, and I don't have to do a cross country fly/drive. I found that the price that is advertised online is only what they 'can' show, but they can go lower....

I am actually on a cross country trip of sorts, AL to AZ along I-10 and return VIA Moab and ??? route. Where possible I'm going to view more examples of the Omni/Magnitude. In Louisiana a dealer has the 34 and 35 that I'll see either today or tomorrow. After that I'll be near San Antonio a week and Tucson a few days. My return likely will take me to the DFW area and the Motorhome specialist there. By that time I'll know if it's a fit for us and if I want to go that $$$$. I'm going to take it in the shorts selling/trading my truck and trailer. They are in the sig line. No not well planned but circumstances make TH travel with the motorcycle not in my future.

Questions; Suspension, sales guy said air suspension but he really didn't know the product well. I know it's not 4 corner like a DP and couldn't get under to check the rear. I could see coil springs for the front.
Fuel tanks, he also was less than knowledgeable about that. How is fuel managed between the front/rear tanks? Which tank does the gen draw from?
CCC, when Thor lists available cargo how is that calculated. Again clueless info from dealer. Does that include full fuel, any/all other fluids??? The XG32 had around 2600# as I recall.
Judge I like part of the layout of the 34 but not the king bed. Some RVs with the RV king can easily be modified by cutting down the base and slide a queen in. Not this since the base houses the water tank and a lot of plumbing and electrical and goes all the way to the edge of the mattress. That and it's longer than we want. The 32 at 33.5' is longer than our initial searches.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by chunker21

I am actually on a cross country trip of sorts, AL to AZ along I-10 and return VIA Moab and ??? route. Where possible I'm going to view more examples of the Omni/Magnitude. In Louisiana a dealer has the 34 and 35 that I'll see either today or tomorrow. After that I'll be near San Antonio a week and Tucson a few days. My return likely will take me to the DFW area and the Motorhome specialist there. By that time I'll know if it's a fit for us and if I want to go that $$$$. I'm going to take it in the shorts selling/trading my truck and trailer. They are in the sig line. No not well planned but circumstances make TH travel with the motorcycle not in my future.

Questions; Suspension, sales guy said air suspension but he really didn't know the product well. I know it's not 4 corner like a DP and couldn't get under to check the rear. I could see coil springs for the front.
Fuel tanks, he also was less than knowledgeable about that. How is fuel managed between the front/rear tanks? Which tank does the gen draw from?
CCC, when Thor lists available cargo how is that calculated. Again clueless info from dealer. Does that include full fuel, any/all other fluids??? The XG32 had around 2600# as I recall.
Judge I like part of the layout of the 34 but not the king bed. Some RVs with the RV king can easily be modified by cutting down the base and slide a queen in. Not this since the base houses the water tank and a lot of plumbing and electrical and goes all the way to the edge of the mattress. That and it's longer than we want. The 32 at 33.5' is longer than our initial searches.

The yellow liable will tell you what is calculated into the OCCC. Normally full fuel and LP.

Many lengthy discussions on the forum on how fuel on the F550 is managed between the dual tanks. Judge provided a very good post on how fuel is transferred between tanks etc... A search should find the threads.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by chunker21

Questions; Suspension, sales guy said air suspension but he really didn't know the product well. I know it's not 4 corner like a DP and couldn't get under to check the rear. I could see coil springs for the front.
Fuel tanks, he also was less than knowledgeable about that. How is fuel managed between the front/rear tanks? Which tank does the gen draw from?
CCC, when Thor lists available cargo how is that calculated. Again clueless info from dealer. Does that include full fuel, any/all other fluids??? The XG32 had around 2600# as I recall.

A King Bed is a requirement for us but for others it's not. I like it because it is the Tilt-a-View bed and is great for reading, watching TV or being on the laptop in bed. Plus we just want the extra space.

The Omni / Magnitude does not have an Air Suspension. The F-550 stock suspension is pretty stout. I did replaced the factory bump stops with Sumo Springs (sort of an airless air-bag) after a year or so to soften the jolts across rough roads.

The fuel pump is in the front fuel tank delivers fuel to the engine. When the fuel level in the front fuel tank drops below three quarter full, fuel automatically transfers from the rear fuel tank to the front fuel tank. Whenever there is fuel in the rear fuel tank, the front fuel tank level remains between half and three quarter full.

If you run out of fuel, you must add fuel to the front fuel tank to restart the engine. The generator is pulling fuel from the front tank as well.

These are heavy coaches. You will likely have a little more carrying capacity than I do. If I recall fully loaded (all fluids, gear, etc.), mine is near the GVWR. I'm not worried about it like I was with a Class C on an E-Series Chassis. The F-550 is designed to be a true super duty chassis. The axles and other components are generally rated for more than the GVWR.

The wheels and tires are usually the weakest link. On the E-Series I was usually at or over the recommended capacity of the stock tires. They were also LT tires not designed to carry heavy loads 100% of the time.

The stock F-550 tire are heavy truck tires and have some carrying capacity to spare. Brakes are the next concern but I am not worried with the F-550 becaue of the Engine Brake capability. Ultimately, I am not concerned if I am at or slightly over the GVWR on my Magnitude like I was with my Outlaw 29H.

[bandi]

Originally Posted by chunker21

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Questions....

Suspension, sales guy said air suspension but he really didn't know the product well. I know it's not 4 corner like a DP and couldn't get under to check the rear. I could see coil springs for the front.

The suspension is standard ford components, so coils up front with radius arms and solid axle, and leaf springs in the rear...

Fuel tanks, he also was less than knowledgeable about that. How is fuel managed between the front/rear tanks? Which tank does the gen draw from?

There are two fuel tank, a 28gal (front) and a 40gal (rear), when full, fuel is used from the front tank (gen uses the front) until you get to 3/4, then auto switches to the rear tank and swallows that up, then auto switches back to the front tank (gen will stop sucking off the tank at 1/4 to save from being stranded)....

CCC, when Thor lists available cargo how is that calculated. Again clueless info from dealer. Does that include full fuel, any/all other fluids??? The XG32 had around 2600# as I recall.

The OCCC weight on the sticker is what is leftover for what you will be putting in the RV... Sooo for water you add to the tank, yourself/fam'/pets, your cargo (food/cloths/tools/etc.), and tongue weight (if towing with a trailer/dolly only, or for a toad for only a portion of the hitch assembly weight)...

[chunker21]

Has anyone considered or installed a powerED power cord reel? When I looked at the XG32, I measured the 2 compartments next to the shore power connection and the one forward should handle one. Shoreline and southwire both have reels that are wider than tall that would fit. Possibly the compartment aft but it might be a tight fit getting it in. I suspect the compartment floor would need reinforcing with a wood superstructure. Accessing the power cord would then facilitate a hard wired EMS such as the PI one. It might be a bit awkward spooling off the cord and feeding it down through an access hole but probably less so than lugging around the 50amp cord.

I had the drum type on the Itasca Horizon DP and it worked very well but not enough room in this coach for that style. Our travel style is travel, not sit for weeks/months in one location, so ease in hookups is our consideration.

[Judge]

I thought about it but to me it was not worth losing the storage space and the expense. We also move around a lot but to me it's not worth it and not that bad to pull out the cord and hook up.... even as heavy as it is.

I even have an extension 50A cord in case I need more length. I have had to use it once and it creates a little extra worth but for now I am ok with the manual approach.

[chunker21]

Originally Posted by Judge

I thought about it but to me it was not worth losing the storage space and the expense. We also move around a lot but to me it's not worth it and not that bad to pull out the cord and hook up.... even as heavy as it is.

I even have an extension 50A cord in case I need more length. I have had to use it once and it creates a little extra worth but for now I am ok with the manual approach.

Yes I agree that storage, especially exterior is at a premium and if/when I get one I may rethink that idea. I did like a hardwired EMS, put one on the Raptor, but if access to the wiring is a major pain, the portable will work. Advantages/disadvantages to both types. On my Raptor, and the GFs Crusader 5th wheel, I got the 50amp 90* adaptor to reduce the strain of the cord when attached. I also have a 25'? 50 amp extension cord that's been used once on our AK trip. Otherwise it stays in the back of whatever compartment it's in.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by chunker21

Yes I agree that storage, especially exterior is at a premium and if/when I get one I may rethink that idea. I did like a hardwired EMS, put one on the Raptor, but if access to the wiring is a major pain, the portable will work. Advantages/disadvantages to both types. On my Raptor, and the GFs Crusader 5th wheel, I got the 50amp 90* adaptor to reduce the strain of the cord when attached. I also have a 25'? 50 amp extension cord that's been used once on our AK trip. Otherwise it stays in the back of whatever compartment it's in.

My SV34 has plenty of space under the bed where the transfer switch is located so I hardwired a Progressive EMS there. I opted to wire it after the transfer switch so I had protection in case the generator ever had any electrical issues. I figured the transfer switch was easier and cheaper to replace than the fridge or an A/C unit.

[chunker21]

Originally Posted by Judge

My SV34 has plenty of space under the bed where the transfer switch is located so I hardwired a Progressive EMS there. I opted to wire it after the transfer switch so I had protection in case the generator ever had any electrical issues. I figured the transfer switch was easier and cheaper to replace than the fridge or an A/C unit.

I looked under the bed searching for the water filter on the 32 and there should be plenty of room for the EMS also. Filter was under bathroom sink. I also hardwired my PI EMS on the raptor after the transfer switch to get generator protection. Was an easy install except laying on my side in a narrow passageway and manhandling the 6ga wire section. Where did you install the remote display part?

[MCG]

I bought XG32 last March but haven't use it much due to medical issues. Took a trip to Arizona for a week and couple weekend outings. No major issues but some minor ones. Struggling with the instant hot water, low water pressure on kitchen sink faucet, and a rattle in front ceiling air vent. The F550 is a brute and ran perfectly towing a Spyder and Polaris General 4. I agree that is a good bang for your buck in the super C category. If your travels take you through Salt Lake City you're welcome to check mine out.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by MCG

I bought XG32 last March but haven't use it much due to medical issues. Took a trip to Arizona for a week and couple weekend outings. No major issues but some minor ones. Struggling with the instant hot water, low water pressure on kitchen sink faucet, and a rattle in front ceiling air vent. The F550 is a brute and ran perfectly towing a Spyder and Polaris General 4. I agree that is a good bang for your buck in the super C category. If your travels take you through Salt Lake City you're welcome to check mine out.

Take off all of the faucet strainers and check / clean out any construction debris. This is a common issue and will impact water flow and can even cause issues with the tankless hot water.

For the tankless, make sure you have at least 45 - 50 PSI of water pressure. Then set your temperature and do not mix in any cold water.

If you still have issues, there is a strainer in the cold water inlet to the tankless. This can also get blocked with construction debris. When I was at the Thor Service Center they told me they were removing this strainer with anyone having issues and it usually solves the problem.

[MCG]

Found my low pressure sink problem. The braided water line going to the faucet under the sink was kinked in two locations because of a weight installed on it to pull it back into the faucet after you pull it out to use the spray feature.

[Ocotillo Boy]

Good find!

[chunker21]

Does the engine have an exhaust or engine brake? For some reason I thought I saw that it had but can't find a reference now. Yesterday I looked at some Nexus "super C", Wraith models and even though it's on an International chassis with the Cummins ISB engine it did NOT have the exhaust brake. My Ram 3500 has one and it's a nice feature. In my search and research of acceptable models for us, I'm back to the Thor Omni/Magnitude XG32 as top contender. We're in Eagles Nest RV park AZ, near Fountain Hills AZ and there's a Magnitude here. Today I'll try to find the owner "home" and see what their thoughts are. No sure which model since I've only seen it at a distance.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by chunker21

Does the engine have an exhaust or engine brake? For some reason I thought I saw that it had but can't find a reference now. Yesterday I looked at some Nexus "super C", Wraith models and even though it's on an International chassis with the Cummins ISB engine it did NOT have the exhaust brake. My Ram 3500 has one and it's a nice feature. In my search and research of acceptable models for us, I'm back to the Thor Omni/Magnitude XG32 as top contender. We're in Eagles Nest RV park AZ, near Fountain Hills AZ and there's a Magnitude here. Today I'll try to find the owner "home" and see what their thoughts are. No sure which model since I've only seen it at a distance.

The Omni / Magnitude with the F-550 does have the engine brake (On - Off - Automatic Modes).

I drove through the Carolina Mountains last year with the cruise set on 55 and the engine brake on and I hardly ever touched the pedals going up and down the hills.