Surge protector

[LandKO]

When I bought my travel trailer, I purchased a Surge Guard 34830 Portable Model with LCD Display - 30 Amp.
When I traded it in on the Class C, I kept using it.
Now considering a hard wired unit. Which Progressive Industries model would y’all recommend?

[longknocker]

Are they available to work with both 30 and 50 amp?

[cavie]

Originally Posted by Bob Denman

The term "surge protector: is often used; when the person asking the question is actually asking about something that offers MUCH more protection.

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[cavie]

Originally Posted by longknocker

Are they available to work with both 30 and 50 amp?

yes, do some research. Progressive Industries is the best.

[cavie]

Originally Posted by powerboatr

https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Surge...p/55-2708w.htm
this one, not from this vendor but the model

Good shoice. That is a full blown EMS. Not just a surge protecter

[cavie]

It is very hard to get a non electric type person to stop over using the term Surge Protector but I am gonna keep on trying.

A surge protector is just that and nothing more. It is designed to be a one hit wonder. It stops high voltage surges or spikes. It is a one time use device.

There is no device called a Surge Guard. That is a Company name.

EMS is the only thing worth buying. If you find yourself in a lot of low voltage situations the you can add an Hughes Auto-transformer. Installed in front of the EMS it will boost the voltage and keep the EMS from turning off the power.

[rynosback]

Originally Posted by longknocker

Are they available to work with both 30 and 50 amp?

Yes. I have the 50 amp wired in and a Hughes Auto former I am getting ready to hard wire also. The hard wired EMS will come with a remote display for you to see the voltages and any fault codes that happen.

[cavie]

Originally Posted by rynosback

Yes. I have the 50 amp wired in and a Hughes Auto former I am getting ready to hard wire also. The hard wired EMS will come with a remote display for you to see the voltages and any fault codes that happen.

Install the Hughes BEFORE the EMS. Some have installed it after not knowing how it works.

[Bob Denman]

Originally Posted by Long & Winding road

Good Old Bob.... what are we going to do with you?

We can take you anywhere. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6P2VK-Qao

[Grizz]

This one look interesting. I have the built in EMS on mine and also have the autoformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3npmvK5pE8&t=517s

[LandKO]

Originally Posted by cavie

It is very hard to get a non electric type person to stop over using the term Surge Protector but I am gonna keep on trying.


EMS is the only thing worth buying. If you find yourself in a lot of low voltage situations the you can add an Hughes Auto-transformer. Installed in front of the EMS it will boost the voltage and keep the EMS from turning off the power.

I’m not a trained “electrical type” but have work around and with “Sparkies” for many years.
I understand the need for an EMS and see a need for a voltage booster in some cases.
I have read the data on both the Progressive Industries EMS and the Hughes Autoformer. Herein are my observations/ questions.
Both units advertise that they provide surge protection and low voltage protection. Isn’t that overkill?
The Hughes unit has a plug on the in line cord. If the intent is to hardwire both the EMS and the Autoformer, will cutting the plug off of the Autoformer possibility void it’s warrantee?
Thanks for a reply.

[Grizz]

I'm going to wire mine up just like in the video above, no need to cut anything on the EMS or the autoformer.

[Beau388]

Originally Posted by LandKO

I’m not a trained “electrical type” but have work around and with “Sparkies” for many years.
I understand the need for an EMS and see a need for a voltage booster in some cases.
I have read the data on both the Progressive Industries EMS and the Hughes Autoformer. Herein are my observations/ questions.
Both units advertise that they provide surge protection and low voltage protection. Isn’t that overkill?
The Hughes unit has a plug on the in line cord. If the intent is to hardwire both the EMS and the Autoformer, will cutting the plug off of the Autoformer possibility void it’s warrantee?
Thanks for a reply.

Hughes markets an installation kit for on-board installation. The standard unit is meant sit on the ground beside the pedestal. It gets quite warm when supplying lots of amps so it should be in a ventilated compartment if on-board.



The Progressive Ins EMS looks for 10 different problems which could effect the electrical items in the coach and will shutdown the shoreline or generator (if so wired) if any of these problems are detected. It will then indicate why it removed power from the coach. In the event the error is corrected (usually by the campground), it will show the previous error and reconnect power automatically. Twice I have plugged into 30 amp receptacles that my long time friends swore were 120 volt receptacles. Both times the EMS caught the problem and would not connect power. At three different TVA campgrounds I have found an open ground on the 30 amp plug at the pedestal but the 20 amp plug was grounded. Last problem was a a national forest campground I have found the neutral and power reversed at the 30 amp receptacle. I have been doing this RV thing in a class A for more than 23 years and have lost count on the number of times I have found miss-wired pedestals. I used to check on my knees with a voltmeter, now I just assume the EMS will save my electronics. I also like the EMS' A/C power delay. In the morning, usually we do not need the roof top A/C depending only on the dash A/C. I set the A/C to - on, 75 degrees and when the coach gets hot, I just start the generator. In about 3 minutes after the generator has stabilized the A/C comes on (no need to leave the seat).

[Bob Denman]

You/'re making me nervous...



... but really happy that I've got the Progressive EMS with me!

[rtewdtew]

Hi I'm Jerry in Florida. Surge Gard is good. I took a lightning hit in a park near Tampa. The lightning melted the power plug that plugs into power post, melted one end of the Surge Gard protector and blew the Surge Gard unit. I installed a new power plug and took the Surge Gard unit back to Camping World...had the $10 extended warranty and they gave me a new one.. No issues in the RV, so I would say it "saved our bacon" so to speak.

Hope this helps.

Jerry & Diane
Thor Four-Winds 31W

[LandKO]

The Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C Hardwired RV Surge & Electrical Protector that I ordered has arrived.
I have a good location for the main unit. What I would like to know, is where others have mounted the remote display?
I’d prefer it be inside where it can easily be seen, but not where the scrolling led display is a distraction. I don’t want to see the blinking light in a darken cabin.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks

[Beau388]

I mounted my remote display on the hollow, outer bathroom wall, where the Thor control panel and the inverter control panel are located. The main unit is mounted between the inverter and the ATS under the bed. There is a wire chase around the back of the toilet and under the bathroom sink to the hollow wall.

[LandKO]

Originally Posted by Beau388

I mounted my remote display on the hollow, outer bathroom wall, where the Thor control panel and the inverter control panel are located.

The control panel is a logical location, but as I had previously stated, I do not want to see a blinking red display in the cabin at night.
Maybe I’ll fabricate a smoked lexan lens over the top of the display. Then it shouldn’t be as obvious.
Thanks for your input.

[javelin]

Originally Posted by LandKO

The Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C Hardwired RV Surge & Electrical Protector that I ordered has arrived.
I have a good location for the main unit. What I would like to know, is where others have mounted the remote display?
I’d prefer it be inside where it can easily be seen, but not where the scrolling led display is a distraction. I don’t want to see the blinking light in a darken cabin.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks

I have the hard wired version Progressive EMS also. I mounted the main unit under the bed with the transfer switch and other electrical items close by. The remote is mounted on the side of the bed facing the hallway.....so I can read it by leaning into the coach door from outside and look down the hallway if something strange happens power wise. Blinking at night might be an issue for some but usually blankets will cover it or a piece of tape for those that have thin eyelids. The DW says her eyelids are the only thin part.

[Beau388]

Originally Posted by LandKO

The control panel is a logical location, but as I had previously stated, I do not want to see a blinking red display in the cabin at night.
Maybe I’ll fabricate a smoked lexan lens over the top of the display. Then it shouldn’t be as obvious.
Thanks for your input.

The remote display is surface mount and not flush mount, so there is little light unless looking directly at it. Both of our slides are on the driver's side with the bath, so you can not see the display. I do suppose monitor reflects of the shower door but we have night lights in both rooms so we can avoid the three cat tails when moving around at night.