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05-02-2022, 01:59 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 33.2
State: Florida
Posts: 10
THOR #26658
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water filter cover removal
I have a 2013 Thor Palazzo 33.2 diesel pusher that I purchased 2 weeks ago. 1st RV! I want to sanitize the onboard water tank as I do not know how long the water's been in there. I cannot get the blue cover off that encloses the filter. No room for the supplied removal tool to move in either direction. I'm going to try and find an oil filter removal tool that fits it that is driven by a socket wrench. Any other suggestions?
Thank you
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05-02-2022, 02:27 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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1. Pictures?
2. I assume the pump is off
3. Hard to believe no room for the tool
I never use my tool as I tighten and unscrew by hand.
You may have all types of scale buildup? I would consider a new one. Replace the whole thing.
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05-02-2022, 02:47 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 4,186
THOR #16721
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Good luck getting it off, but I suggest not torquing it so tightly when replacing... FIRM hand tightening is all that's needed.
Maybe try running cold water through the plumbing, then use a hair dryer on high setting to heat the thread area? Might make it expand a little to loosen it? I use that heat trick on jar lids.
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05-02-2022, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 42GX
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,158
THOR #9178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorick
I have a 2013 Thor Palazzo 33.2 diesel pusher that I purchased 2 weeks ago. 1st RV! I want to sanitize the onboard water tank as I do not know how long the water's been in there. I cannot get the blue cover off that encloses the filter. No room for the supplied removal tool to move in either direction. I'm going to try and find an oil filter removal tool that fits it that is driven by a socket wrench. Any other suggestions?
Thank you
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Tilt the filter housing enough to get the wrench on the bottom
How long has the RV been setting with water in the tank?
Replacement might be the best option as noted
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05-03-2022, 01:09 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 33.2
State: Florida
Posts: 10
THOR #26658
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probably been sitting a while. The filter has no bypass lever so I'll probably end up replacing the existing filter assy with one that has a bypass.
Thanks
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05-03-2022, 01:12 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 33.2
State: Florida
Posts: 10
THOR #26658
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Thanks for the suggestion. Just got the Palazzo about 3 weeks ago. I need to drain the water tank, sanitize and do a couple of flushes, after I replace the filter assy with a newer style that has a bypass lever.
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05-03-2022, 01:15 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 33.2
State: Florida
Posts: 10
THOR #26658
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I'm just getting into the water area and plan to drain, sanitize and rinse several times after upgrading the water filter with one that has a bypass lever
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05-03-2022, 02:50 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Can I ask what is the purpose or your intent for the bypass level?
Mine does not have filter bypass either, I can't think of why one would ever use water that was NOT filtered in a RV? It is not like you gonna water the lawn at the camp site? Filters are very cheap.
One other thing to try is spray that Penetrating Blaster spray around the perimeter of the seal. Wait an hour and try again, if it does not come off spray again and repeat. I guarantee it will eventually break free without too much effort. You may be able to clean it up in house sink or dishwasher.
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05-06-2022, 02:04 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 33.2
State: Florida
Posts: 10
THOR #26658
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I use the bypass valve when I change the filter. That way the water supply isn't shut off while I fight with getting the filter cover off. Also, the filter cover gets a buildup on the inside so I like to clean that out at filter change time. And, I wanted to sanitize the fresh water system. At he time I couldn't get the filter cover off and didn't want the bleach going thru the filter. Thank you
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05-06-2022, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 4,186
THOR #16721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorick
I use the bypass valve when I change the filter. That way the water supply isn't shut off while I fight with getting the filter cover off. Also, the filter cover gets a buildup on the inside so I like to clean that out at filter change time. And, I wanted to sanitize the fresh water system. At he time I couldn't get the filter cover off and didn't want the bleach going thru the filter. Thank you
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Great idea to isolate the filter and prevent having to drain the whole plumbing system!
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05-06-2022, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Originally Posted by dkoldman
Can I ask what is the purpose or your intent for the bypass level?
Mine does not have filter bypass either, I can't think of why one would ever use water that was NOT filtered in a RV? It is not like you gonna water the lawn at the camp site? Filters are very cheap.
One other thing to try is spray that Penetrating Blaster spray around the perimeter of the seal. Wait an hour and try again, if it does not come off spray again and repeat. I guarantee it will eventually break free without too much effort. You may be able to clean it up in house sink or dishwasher.
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PB Blaster would be a very good way to ruin the rubber gasket & depending on the type of plastic the filter housing is made of could soften the plastic.
The filters I've had you used the wrench to remove the bottom of the canister not the top, not sure what yours looks like.
When/if you get it loose, when reinstalling up a small dab of plumbers grease (NOT Vaseline), found at any hardware store, smeared on the threads & o ring & hand tighten only.
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05-06-2022, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 899
THOR #17478
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If you want to keep it, use plumbers grease on the seal. I bypassed it. I managed to get mine off, but what a bugger. It did not matter, the previous owner removed and did not replace the the filter. Behind that plastic fiber wall I bypassed it and installed a there stage filter.
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05-06-2022, 05:45 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 42GX
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,158
THOR #9178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans
PB Blaster would be a very good way to ruin the rubber gasket & depending on the type of plastic the filter housing is made of could soften the plastic.
The filters I've had you used the wrench to remove the bottom of the canister not the top, not sure what yours looks like.
When/if you get it loose, when reinstalling up a small dab of plumbers grease (NOT Vaseline), found at any hardware store, smeared on the threads & o ring & hand tighten only.
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Food grade silicone lubricant works well also
Keep PB away from any rubber or for that matter potable equipment
Getting the wrench tight against the grooves and the filter top secured, a bump on the handle with a dead blow hammer easily breaks the canister loose
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05-06-2022, 06:30 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans
PB Blaster would be a very good way to ruin the rubber gasket & depending on the type of plastic the filter housing is made of could soften the plastic.
The filters I've had you used the wrench to remove the bottom of the canister not the top, not sure what yours looks like.
When/if you get it loose, when reinstalling up a small dab of plumbers grease (NOT Vaseline), found at any hardware store, smeared on the threads & o ring & hand tighten only.
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You may not have followed the entire thread.
Suggestion to use PB blaster was at the point OP was about to completely replace!!! It was a hey... one more thing to try just to see how you may get it off before breaking it off for.
My Canister wrench is at the bottom too, I said earlier I never use the tool because I always can remove mine by hand.
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05-06-2022, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorick
I use the bypass valve when I change the filter. That way the water supply isn't shut off while I fight with getting the filter cover off. Also, the filter cover gets a buildup on the inside so I like to clean that out at filter change time. And, I wanted to sanitize the fresh water system. At he time I couldn't get the filter cover off and didn't want the bleach going thru the filter. Thank you
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Ok, I never thought that having water on while changing filter would be a need? Takes me 2 min max to change out the filter and if I am sanitizing I am not going to be using any water until I finish.
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05-06-2022, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 42GX
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,158
THOR #9178
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I like the bypas filters for home use as the filter is in the basement
Otherwise in the Tuscany rwo changes max per year
No need for the bypass
But whatever works
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05-06-2022, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkoldman
You may not have followed the entire thread.
Suggestion to use PB blaster was at the point OP was about to completely replace!!! It was a hey... one more thing to try just to see how you may get it off before breaking it off for.
My Canister wrench is at the bottom too, I said earlier I never use the tool because I always can remove mine by hand.
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The warning about using PB Blaster on ANY rubber or plastic was not necessarily directed at you imparticulary but to ANYONE/EVERYONE reading this thread.
DO NOT use any petroleum based product on anything rubber!!!
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05-06-2022, 10:47 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans
The warning about using PB Blaster on ANY rubber or plastic was not necessarily directed at you imparticulary but to ANYONE/EVERYONE reading this thread.
DO NOT use any petroleum based product on anything rubber!!!
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Agreed 👍
But if you got something to throw away and it is handy I just used a grinding tool to cut the bolts to get my pet pal dog leash off my RV. I had hit a cone, ran over it and it bent the crap out of it. Tried my PB Blaster but nut and bolts start to spin. It is history now , dealer wanted $145 to remove.
FWIW,we don't have pets if I did I doubt I would tie the dog up to the RV
I always say quality is fitness for use.
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05-11-2022, 06:52 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Ohio
Posts: 15
THOR #3538
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Water filter
I removed my filter and installed a nipple to complete the system. Then I bought a double filter built a stand for it it sets outside easy to change filters unhook it put it away. Plus I bought a softener hard water and pecan do not get along. Plus a shower with soft water is really nice. Winterizing no issues with nothing to trap water. Easy peasy
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05-12-2022, 12:48 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 36.1
State: North Carolina
Posts: 349
THOR #13712
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the filter should lift up and then pull towards the door. the tool should then fit on the bottom but you will only get 1/4/to 1/2 inch movement at a time - why some idiot thought putting the filter on the wall sandwiched between the tank is beyond me. when I replace the floor that bugger is moving to the other side by the water inlet.
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