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Brand: Still Looking
Model: S.O.B.
State: Florida
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Originally Posted by 16ACE27
It's pretty bad when they engineer work-arounds for impending failures.
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Along those lines, Yugos had rear window defrosters so your hands wouldn't get cold while pushing it in the winter. 
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02-02-2021, 02:46 PM
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Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
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Originally Posted by Popfla
Along those lines, Yugos had rear window defrosters so your hands wouldn't get cold while pushing it in the winter. |
Genius!
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02-02-2021, 03:36 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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 Those Yugoslavians really knew how to take care of their disgruntled customers...
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02-02-2021, 04:26 PM
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Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Popfla
Along those lines, Yugos had rear window defrosters so your hands wouldn't get cold while pushing it in the winter. |
Same reason Ford's have heated tailgates!
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02-02-2021, 04:52 PM
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Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
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THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans
Same reason Ford's have heated tailgates!
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I thought that was only included with the "Tailgater Editions".
It saves having to carry a grill to the ballpark! 
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02-03-2021, 06:01 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
If you're not sure: raed your Toad's manual...
My 83 Porsche 911 is my TOAD. It is a 5 speed manual shift. None of the manuals show anything that would answer my question. So in this case RTFM has failed me. Checked the manuals on my other 2 vehicles and also no info. |
I too have an 83 911, how do you safely tow it without a trailer...
Would love to have the old girl on the road with me
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02-06-2021, 07:32 PM
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We're flat towing a 2017 Jeep Wrangler and the odometer doesn't register mileage.
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02-06-2021, 08:27 PM
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Model: Windsport 35C
State: Indiana
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Beau388
I was excited to get my first water-cooled motorcycle and here you are still babying one of those old belt throwing rust hole in the floorboard dinosaurs! 
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02-07-2021, 12:43 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2019 Freedom Traveler A30
State: Oregon
Posts: 23
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No odometer changes towing our 2020 Honda Civic Sedan Sport MT.
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02-07-2021, 01:47 AM
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Brand: Still Looking
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State: Michigan
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ford explorer DOES accumulate
My 2014 ford explorer DOES accumulate miles during flat tow and no on the tow dolly
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02-07-2021, 01:52 AM
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State: New York
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My folks flat-towed a 1987 Samurai for years. The odometer on that little 4x4 read over 120,000 miles...
But they figure that the "driven" miles were only about a quarter of that.
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02-07-2021, 02:01 AM
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State: Alabama
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Agree on digital Speedo not counting miles but you must remember to count those toad miles to remind you of rotating and balancing the tires. No need to capture the toad miles for oil change, just tred the odometer.
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02-07-2021, 02:04 AM
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State: New York
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 . "Toad" miles, versus "Road" miles.
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02-07-2021, 04:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckb
My 2014 ford explorer DOES accumulate miles during flat tow and no on the tow dolly
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Probably drains the battery as well since you have to leave the key in the accessory position. You could probably put a battery disconnect switch on it and solve both those problems.
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02-07-2021, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Probably drains the battery as well since you have to leave the key in the accessory position. You could probably put a battery disconnect switch on it and solve both those problems.
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I agree...
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02-07-2021, 02:48 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
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THOR #6903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
For all newer cars that have specific instructions in the Owners Manual for Recreational Vehicle Towing mileage will not accumulate while towing if the instructions are followed.
If you are towing older manual transmission cars or newer cars without manufacturer's endorsed Recreational Vehicle Towing instructions mileage may accumulate.
I flat tow two vehicles. Mileage does not accumulate on either one.
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Exactly, if the drive is in neutral how does it register? In my case the F150 has the transfer case in neutral so how could anything add up miles?
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02-07-2021, 03:59 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: New York
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My 2015 keep wrangler gained 20,000 miles following me around last year !
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02-07-2021, 04:06 PM
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State: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gkpsport@gmail.com
My 2015 keep wrangler gained 20,000 miles following me around last year !
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Apparently the sensor is on the rear drive train and the electronics stay on towing
On my F150 I when I shut off the button after a door is opened everything powers down
Interesting
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02-07-2021, 04:31 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Citation
State: Texas
Posts: 920
THOR #8139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
. "Toad" miles, versus "Road" miles. |
I've documented all our "toad" miles by taking a picture of the mh odometer when we hook up and when we disconnect.
A little over 10k on the Jeep Cherokee, 7k on our CMax, 8k on a dolly/CooperS.
I enter those miles on a spreadsheet for maintenance.
FYI Discount Tire has always rotated the tires when I tell them "we tow behind our mh".
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02-07-2021, 06:40 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Elite FE22
State: Oregon
Posts: 26
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Electronic odometers mostly won't accrue mileage, but mechanical odometers likely will. It's been a long time, but when I worked part time in a service station the lube service involved unscrewing the speedometer cable at the transmission and lubricating it. I think such a disconnection should stop the mileage pile-on with units of that type. Better find a way to seal off dirt when towing while disconnected.
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