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Old 08-19-2018, 12:25 AM   #1
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Towing behind an RV question

We have a 2019 Chateau E31, and a Toyota forerunner and a Toyota Tacoma. The dealer told us we canít tow either of them due to they are front wheel drive. Iíve heard you can disconnect the drive shaft, but that would be a pain. The wife donít like the idea of a trailer big enough to carry one of them, keeping all four wheels off the ground. But we met a fellow camper who has a front wheel drive car and they use a dolly and tow it backwards. Weíd love to have a second vehicle with us but not sure where to go from here. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:40 AM   #2
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We have a 2019 Chateau E31, and a Toyota forerunner and a Toyota Tacoma. The dealer told us we canít tow either of them due to they are front wheel drive. Iíve heard you can disconnect the drive shaft, but that would be a pain. The wife donít like the idea of a trailer big enough to carry one of them, keeping all four wheels off the ground. But we met a fellow camper who has a front wheel drive car and they use a dolly and tow it backwards. Weíd love to have a second vehicle with us but not sure where to go from here. Any thoughts?
If it's a front wheel drive then they should be towing it with the front wheels on the dolly.
We tow a Smart Car which is rear wheel drive. We back it onto the dolly.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:43 AM   #3
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I towed with a dolly for a short time, but it got old real quick. I purchased a 2014 Fiat 500 4 door manual shift for $9,000 and have never regretted it.



I hated having to get on the ground and hook up each tire and then get under the car and hook up a safety chain. When I completed these tasks, I needed a shower.


Once when I was removing my 2010 Honda Insight from the dolly the front ground trim caught somewhere and pulled loose (and it was raining). That was the final straw.


Now, my wife can hook up the Fiat in 5 minutes and we are read to go down the road. Also, very easy to disconnect when you arrive at your campsite.


If you can find a way, tow 4 down.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:47 AM   #4
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My experience is the same as Rickymac. Hated the toe dolly. But, big expense to purchase different vehicle just so you can tow four down. Some people on the forum donít tow. Instead they rent a vehicle when they get to their destination.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:52 AM   #5
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The Tacoma and 4-Runner are 4WD or rear wheel drive. Which means there is a possibility of towing them with the transfer case in neutral. Check your owner's manuals and they should tell you the requirements for towing your vehicles. I wouldn't rely on the dealer for that information, remember they are salesmen.
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:10 AM   #6
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All Tacomas are RWD and require either a driveshaft disconnect or transmission lube pump. Even the four wheel drives. I have a Tacoma and would prefer to tow, but leaning towards getting either a Ford Fiesta or Focus.
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Old 08-19-2018, 02:15 AM   #7
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We have a 2019 Chateau E31, and a Toyota forerunner and a Toyota Tacoma. The dealer told us we canít tow either of them due to they are front wheel drive. Iíve heard you can disconnect the drive shaft, but that would be a pain. The wife donít like the idea of a trailer big enough to carry one of them, keeping all four wheels off the ground. But we met a fellow camper who has a front wheel drive car and they use a dolly and tow it backwards. Weíd love to have a second vehicle with us but not sure where to go from here. Any thoughts?
RUN! Run quickly and far, far away from the individual that said those vehicles were front wheel drive.
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Old 08-19-2018, 04:00 AM   #8
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im interested in this also. my dad left me his 2004 Tacoma 4WD. (the last year with stick transfer case WITH NEUTRAL) everyone is saying to disconnect the driveshaft.

its either the 4WD truck or Prius. i'd prefer the truck as if it breaks it's cheaper/older/simpler. it's not a jeep cherokee but it's what i got and and some one said: i dont want to buy another vehicle just to flat tow.
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Old 08-19-2018, 03:32 PM   #9
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im interested in this also. my dad left me his 2004 Tacoma 4WD. (the last year with stick transfer case WITH NEUTRAL) everyone is saying to disconnect the driveshaft.

its either the 4WD truck or Prius. i'd prefer the truck as if it breaks it's cheaper/older/simpler. it's not a jeep cherokee but it's what i got and and some one said: i dont want to buy another vehicle just to flat tow.
Your 2004 might not need a disconnect. As long as it has the manual transfer case. Every thread that I have seen that discussed Tacomas talks about 2007 or 2008 and newer trucks requiring a driveshaft disconnect. Mine is a 2008. When did they stop making the 1st Gen trucks?

Put in your specs on this website: http://www.remcotowing.com/Towing/Store.php
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Old 08-19-2018, 03:38 PM   #10
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I guess you could call it a manual transfer case. It has a switch on the dash but it seems to be electronic. Just read a motor home article that said to check Car owners manual plus if the web site from “Blue Ox” tow bars lists cars that are towable. Going to check the car manuals when we get home.
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Old 08-19-2018, 05:07 PM   #11
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Definitely go by the owners manual. There may be other steps to take. We have a 2005 Jeep Liberty that requires the transfer case to be in Neutral and the transmission to be in Park. Ignition has an Off position that allows power to 12 volt plug. Some Ford 4WD with the electronic switch for the transfer case cannot be towed 4 down. But with the actual manual lever they can. Each model is different.
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Old 08-19-2018, 06:37 PM   #12
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Your 2004 might not need a disconnect. As long as it has the manual transfer case. Every thread that I have seen that discussed Tacomas talks about 2007 or 2008 and newer trucks requiring a driveshaft disconnect. Mine is a 2008. When did they stop making the 1st Gen trucks?

Put in your specs on this website: Store : Remco
so i put my specs in. IF i put in automatic (witch it is) i get this:
"This vehicle will need a drive shaft coupling (disconnect) to be towed with all four wheels on the ground. Remco Industries no longer sells the Drive Shaft Coupling (Disconnect)."

if i put in stick shift:
" Vehicle can be flat towed if it contains a Manual Transfer Case. Follow procedures in Owner's Manual to flat tow correctly. If vehicle has an Electronic Transfer Case then it will require A Drive Shaft Coupling (Disconnect) to tow. Remco Industries no longer sells the Drive Shaft Coupling."

it has 2 levers in it. 1 auto tranny the other is the transfer case. i have electronic 4WD (button selects between 2H and 4H) but for 4L i have to move the lever to neutral and then to 4L. moving the lever automatically pushes the button too.
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Old 08-19-2018, 07:11 PM   #13
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Since we're selling our Spyder (); we'll be looking for a new Toad.
Preferable one that can be towed "Four-Down".

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Old 08-19-2018, 07:25 PM   #14
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Wait a second didnt u buy the outlaw FOR the spyder?
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Old 08-19-2018, 07:51 PM   #15
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Since we're selling our Spyder (); we'll be looking for a new Toad.
Preferable one that can be towed "Four-Down".
Well any of the Ford Hybrids: C-Max Hybrid or Energi, Fusion Hybrid or Energi, Lincoln MKZ Hybrid, and the Focus can be towed 4 down.

In addition the Energi models would offer you 20 miles of EV driving (You can charge up at the 15A, or, with the proper setup, using the 50A socket).

Most of the time with our C-Max we were on electricity only doing sightseeing near the campgrounds when we brought it (haven't towed the Bolt anywhere yet, but it isn't 4-down towable).
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:54 PM   #16
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Just checked my 4Runner manual NO Towing, and my 2 wheel Tacoma is rear wheel so I could but have to tow it backwards with the front wheels off the ground.
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:28 PM   #17
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Wait a second didnt u buy the outlaw FOR the spyder?
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Just checked my 4Runner manual NO Towing, and my 2 wheel Tacoma is rear wheel so I could but have to tow it backwards with the front wheels off the ground.
That makes absolutely no sense.. If you tow it backwards how are the front wheels going to be off the ground?
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Old 08-20-2018, 12:43 AM   #19
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That makes absolutely no sense.. If you tow it backwards how are the front wheels going to be off the ground?


Sorry I meant rear wheels off the ground, guess I am a little dyslexic too.
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Old 08-20-2018, 02:33 AM   #20
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Since we're selling our Spyder (); we'll be looking for a new Toad.
Preferable one that can be towed "Four-Down".

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