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01-16-2017, 02:59 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Originally Posted by rvfigs
My opinion....REGULATION...REGULATION...REGULATION.
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Somewhat like the auto industry; although a lot of that is also driven by simple competition.
I would bet that if one RV manufacturer started a real quality program and then started advertising it (even with simple ads like: "pick it up and go camping--there will be nothing wrong with our coaches. Try this with others!") the others would follow suit once everyone runs to those units.
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Originally Posted by KNMIB
My wife thinks I have a serious mental problem because I have to visit the stored RV about 3 times a week. Sometimes I fool with it sometimes I just look around (she might be right).
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In our house I go "hug the camper" once (or twice, or more) a week.
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01-16-2017, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 37GT
State: Florida
Posts: 809
THOR #5246
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Originally Posted by KandT
I bought my Thor used and am quite happy with it although since it is 11 years old I have had nickel and dime repairs.
I am surprised to see nearly new campers with issues. We are looking to go to a class "A" and my natural question to a Thor owners is when the rubber meets the road would you buy another one or are you upset that you bought this one?
Thanks for opinions and please don't "bash" the brand. I am just looking for facts without emotions associated with one dealer or one bad incident.
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You obviously are not a "newbie" to the RV world. But I will go ahead with my usual advise about buying new as compared to buying a gently used unit. I don't think Thor is any different than any other manufacturer. In their price point they are probably about average on quality control. Just like any RV maker their factory warranty works for some and others consider it a joke I am sure. I purchased my Challenger with the Thor warranty expired, time left on the Ford warranty, and 3,200 miles on the dash.
So far I have only contacted Thor 3 times. The first time to confirm the schedule for a factory tour, the second time to request built drawings/documents, and the third time for a more detailed blow up drawing of my convenience center plumbing. Each time I contacted Thor they were extremely helpful and I felt like they "had my back".
I only have put about 4,000 miles on our Challenger. I am still tweaking some different things and adding others. I am happy with the quality so far.
Would I purchase a new Thor motorhome? No, I wouldn't purchase any brand of RV new.
Would I purchase another used Thor motorhome? Absolutely I would.
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01-16-2017, 03:35 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Flair 31E
State: New York
Posts: 323
THOR #2025
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If I had to do it over again...I would definitely buy used.
Honestly, I think the best place to purchase an RV would be from a fellow tinkerer.
Why wouldn't you buy from a fellow tinkerer who "hugs" his RV every few days .
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01-17-2017, 01:48 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 27K
State: Kentucky
Posts: 881
THOR #2817
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I think women have a different perspective on RVs than men. They tend to go along for the ride, somewhat oblivious to possible impending disasters. The guys worry about breakdowns and how to get them fixed.
We bought our first motor home in the mid 90s, and except for a couple of years with a pull-behind toy hauler and a year or so without an RV, we've had them ever since. The Thor Windsport is our fourth motorhome. None were trouble free for one minute during the time we owned them, including a three year old 38 foot diesel pusher (Holiday Rambler Endeavor). In the twenty years of RV ownership, I have had to deal with many problems, and other than a flat tire and no spare we've never been stranded.
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01-17-2017, 02:01 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Windsport 29M
State: Indiana
Posts: 3,692
THOR #5196
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Originally Posted by dcbenny
My wife wants to know if there is a counselling group for me to join
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Lmao, my wife asked me the same thing! Guess I shouldn't repeat my response on a public forum!!!
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01-17-2017, 02:37 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2023 Jayco Precept 31UL
State: Florida
Posts: 2,916
THOR #1589
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Originally Posted by dcbenny
My wife wants to know if there is a counselling group for me to join
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Methinks this forum is the counseling group, and you already joined it! Some of us have found it to also be an addiction! (Personally, two years and 500+ posts later!)
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01-17-2017, 02:50 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 27.7
State: Kentucky
Posts: 229
THOR #6005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcbenny
My wife wants to know if there is a counselling group for me to join
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Yes...here is a link to the counseling group's website....
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01-17-2017, 03:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,184
THOR #908
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my answer is MAYBE
I certainly wouldn't break my neck to buy only Thor. No brand loyalty from me. They didn't earn it.
We bought a new unit, so I'd say my statistical sample of one is at least the full experience.... I got to see the complete picture of how poor the QC was, and how poor the manufacturing and design is in some areas, dealt with warranty claims, dealt with dealers, a couple of really huge issues (leak/rot), and a long passel of little annoying things...
As it is now, i have spent way more money and time than a person ever should have to on a NEW unit....
That being said, i would look at their products again. Sadly, I'm not so sure that they are any worse than others.... and we like RVing, so there we have it.
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01-17-2017, 03:58 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 27K
State: Kentucky
Posts: 881
THOR #2817
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I saw a perfect example of Thor's lack of pride in assembly when I lifted the cushion and looked under the dinette seat and saw the massive jumble of 12-volt and 120-volt wires and cables. No effort was made to run them neatly. The floor was littered with sawdust and other construction debris. Any building inspector would deny approval of that mess.
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01-17-2017, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,184
THOR #908
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I can't even count the places I have found just the kind of mess you describe.
You put it very well I think, they showed a lack of pride in their work.
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01-17-2017, 07:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,184
THOR #908
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waiting to get a haircut at lunch, noticed another guy waiting wearing a "Big RV Dealer" T-Shirt. Turns out to be a tech there. I asked him which company made the best RV form his perspective.... Winnebago without even a thought.
I happen to know this dealership sell nearly all brands.
I didn't get a chance for follow-up questions regarding why he said it....
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01-17-2017, 08:23 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,782
THOR #1469
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Originally Posted by Metalman
I saw a perfect example of Thor's lack of pride in assembly when I lifted the cushion and looked under the dinette seat and saw the massive jumble of 12-volt and 120-volt wires and cables. No effort was made to run them neatly. The floor was littered with sawdust and other construction debris. Any building inspector would deny approval of that mess.
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A building inspector for homes yes. An RV follows the national code which, believe it or not, allows electrical outlets and switches behind walls to be installed unsecured and just flapping in the breeze.
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01-17-2017, 08:44 PM
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#33
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Moderator Emeritus
Brand: Crossroads
State: Wisconsin
Posts: 669
THOR #124
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Guess what guys--------Thor's lack of QC isn't just reserved for their MH division. It's company wide.
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01-17-2017, 09:07 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 24TX (Formerly)
State: California
Posts: 1,459
THOR #5821
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Originally Posted by blw2
waiting to get a haircut at lunch, noticed another guy waiting wearing a "Big RV Dealer" T-Shirt. Turns out to be a tech there. I asked him which company made the best RV form his perspective.... Winnebago without even a thought.
I happen to know this dealership sell nearly all brands.
I didn't get a chance for follow-up questions regarding why he said it....
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Ok I'll jump in here. Winnebago inarguably makes a good product. Their fit and finish is a cut above Thor's, at least that is my observation. Also their price point is a cut above Thor's which is to be expected. We looked long and hard Winnebago's offerings, and frankly what led us to Thor was the floorplan & in the size we were looking things like ducted AC. We have friends that had a Winnebago, they loved it & decided to trade up to a bigger Winnebago. They had so many major and minor problems with the new one, after one year they gave up, got rid of it and took their losses. No guarantee no matter what brand or price point you buy at. My suggestion is buy what works best for you, which is what we did, and we already have upgraded a lot of the Gemini, and will continue to.
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01-18-2017, 02:29 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Pennsylvania
Posts: 37
THOR #5913
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Yes, I have been surprised at some rat's nests of wires with no labeling whatsoever. Frustrating to troubleshoot! My mechanic didn't think it was unique to any brand. He said he was amazed at what he has found behind the walls! He wasn't speaking of Thor specifically.
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01-18-2017, 03:14 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Flair 31E
State: New York
Posts: 323
THOR #2025
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01-20-2017, 07:50 PM
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#37
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 34 RESA
State: Ohio
Posts: 8
THOR #6014
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Le Petit Chalet
Yes the wife and I purchased a new Vegas 25.2 in April 2016, now Thor has come out with a Vegas 25.5 that we both like. We had a few minor things that needed adjusted and did not get satisfaction from the dealer but called Thor and we took it to the factory for warranty work all was fixed and they even found a few more minor things and took care of them Thor is good for service, some dealers maybe not. The bang for the buck is very good with the Vegas.
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01-20-2017, 08:50 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Fleetwood Flair 31E
State: New York
Posts: 323
THOR #2025
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Originally Posted by Tom McCoy
Yes the wife and I purchased a new Vegas 25.2 in April 2016, now Thor has come out with a Vegas 25.5 that we both like. We had a few minor things that needed adjusted and did not get satisfaction from the dealer but called Thor and we took it to the factory for warranty work all was fixed and they even found a few more minor things and took care of them Thor is good for service, some dealers maybe not. The bang for the buck is very good with the Vegas.
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You nailed it!
I think it's all about the dealer and the service.
We need a rating system for dealers and dealer service to help folks make purchasing decisions.
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01-20-2017, 09:09 PM
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#39
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvfigs
We need a rating system for dealers and dealer service to help folks make purchasing decisions.
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You mean like this: RV Service Reviews
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01-21-2017, 03:47 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Tuscany 36 MQ
State: Indiana
Posts: 938
THOR #6280
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Originally Posted by JamieGeek
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OMG that's great I never saw this before. Added the link to my phone so when playing road warrior I can get info on who to avoid when the Mutants come calling and I need a safe port!
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