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07-23-2020, 02:22 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I will say that having a 20 amp outlet in the box could come in handy.
I've got a battery-powered string trimmer, and I often have three batteries sucking in a charge while I drain the fourth...
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If you would have gone ahead and put in that 50 amp service, you could buy a heavy duty 50 amp weed eater string trimmer, plug, forget, and never ever need another battery. https://media.giphy.com/media/xT5LMv...c2li/giphy.gif
DW might agree on battery savings alone
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07-23-2020, 06:05 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Washington
Posts: 1,112
THOR #6433
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Every 30 amp outlet we have ever installed has always had a 30/15 amp adapter puck in it when no RV was plugged in. Great for that outdoor outlet you're always looking for.
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Oh yeah I guess could do that. Our house has outside plugs but since they are all GFI if they trip they either turn everything off in the garage or in the kitchen. Grateful they work but usually it’s me discovering when the freezer is off that something happened.
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07-23-2020, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Washington
We just did a 30 amp but looking back it would had been nice to add a 20 amp for an extra outlet outside.
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use a plug in 30/20 hockey puck from WM.
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07-23-2020, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksface
Do this.
The only extra costs are minimal.
It is a HUGE selling point.
We have all three installed just like at an rv site. (we think. Magically the SECOND electrician found an 'Extra' 220v line for the microwave in the house. I haven't checked the 50 AMP RVsince....)
Did you run a sewer dump line while you had a chance?
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Please explain this. no such thing.
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07-23-2020, 11:26 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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If you don't have an outside outlet: perhaps your neighbors have one in a handy location...
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-23-2020, 12:31 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
If you don't have an outside outlet: perhaps your neighbors have one in a handy location...
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07-23-2020, 12:34 PM
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#27
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Why is there always a Police Officer around when you don't need one: and never around when you do?
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-23-2020, 01:58 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,781
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GTM41261
If you will be running the power anyway. I would go with a pedestal that has both 30 and 50 amp. Better resale if and when you decide to sell the house.
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Adding a 30 or 50 amp receptacle to the outside of the house adds nothing to the resale value. 99 percent of potential buyers could care less. Only 1 percent will recognize the outlet when they see it.
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US Army (Ret)
2020 Entegra Accolade 37TS
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
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07-23-2020, 02:20 PM
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#29
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Tell them that they could charge $100 per Month for RV storage...
It's all in the Marketing...
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-23-2020, 02:25 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,781
THOR #1469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Tell them that they could charge $100 per Month for RV storage...
It's all in the Marketing...
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In my county, if you are zoned residential you cannot have an RV or boat sitting in the front or side of your house. I am on 2.5 acres of land zoned agricultural and have no problems. My neighbor across the road has to have his boat and TT stored at a lot down the road.
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US Army (Ret)
2020 Entegra Accolade 37TS
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
FMCA - F432054
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07-23-2020, 02:33 PM
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#31
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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There you are: put in some pads and power; and you have a ready-made customer right there in front of you!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-23-2020, 03:26 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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If spending the $$ anyway put in the 20/30/50 amp box & depending where the RV parks there's one that has a switched light fixture which could come in handy.
Unless you're 100% sure that the DW, or you, will never want a bigger 50 amp RV then go at minimum with the 30, why not go big.
As for using the Walmart puck adapters, spend the couple extra bucks for the dogbone adapter, I can't tell how many of those pucks I've had/seen melted running down the pedestal, I'll never own another.
Quick edit!
Someone said go with the 15/20 as you didn't live it. I put in 50 amp for ours next to my shop & our grandkids enjoyed driveway camping when they came to visit & it made a great guest room when needed also.
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07-23-2020, 03:37 PM
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#33
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I've got both: the dog-bone, and the puck...
While I'm sure that the dog-bone can absorb and shed more heat: I've never felt a difference in how hot wither of them get.
(But I'm probably not putting a large load of them...)
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-23-2020, 08:44 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EA37TS
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTM41261 View Post
If you will be running the power anyway. I would go with a pedestal that has both 30 and 50 amp. Better resale if and when you decide to sell the house.
Adding a 30 or 50 amp receptacle to the outside of the house adds nothing to the resale value. 99 percent of potential buyers could care less. Only 1 percent will recognize the outlet when they see it.
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GTM said "better resale"; you said "resale value". There is difference. i.e. installing a storage shed on your property may help to resale, but it may not bring more resale value. Similar goes for painting the house, or similar modest upgrades. In fact not sure of many $500 - $1,000 investments that bring more resale value, but they will almost certainly make for better resale. People tend to like stuff that has been done, they feel like they getting more for less. In fact, they are getting more; so having his option would help for better resale. Doubt very seriously anybody who would buy the house would rip it out; unless it was ONLY 30 amp and they wanted or needed 50 amp.
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07-23-2020, 09:52 PM
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#35
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I think we've entered the, "How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?" part of the discussion now.
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07-23-2020, 11:15 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans
If spending the $$ anyway put in the 20/30/50 amp box & depending where the RV parks there's one that has a switched light fixture which could come in handy.
Unless you're 100% sure that the DW, or you, will never want a bigger 50 amp RV then go at minimum with the 30, why not go big.
As for using the Walmart puck adapters, spend the couple extra bucks for the dogbone adapter, I can't tell how many of those pucks I've had/seen melted running down the pedestal, I'll never own another.
Quick edit!
Someone said go with the 15/20 as you didn't live it. I put in 50 amp for ours next to my shop & our grandkids enjoyed driveway camping when they came to visit & it made a great guest room when needed also.
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The is no 15/20. What I said was put in a 30 it is cheaper and will do all you
want. 50 is not required if your not living in it. 30 will make a good A/C'd bathroom. Wife and I live in a 32' trailer 4 months a year on 30 amps.
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07-23-2020, 11:16 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Allegro Open Road
State: Florida
Posts: 417
THOR #8069
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I put a 30 AMP thinking that I will never get another coach, but guess what, bought a coach last week now I wish I had the 50Amp.
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07-23-2020, 11:42 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron1Z
I put a 30 AMP thinking that I will never get another coach, but guess what, bought a coach last week now I wish I had the 50Amp.
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At home you do not need the full 50 amps unless someone is living in at and using all the electric side of things. Put the WH on gas, fridge on gas. If your not living init you do not need 2 A/C's.
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07-24-2020, 12:00 AM
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#39
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,651
THOR #13058
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Yes 50 amp service cost more than 30 amp service, but how much more and is it relevant in the grand-scheme of things? My brother was quoted for 30 amp service off the back wall of his garage for his 30 amp Sprinter. When I gave him this lecture a year ago; he had the electrician re-quote and the electrician actually did the install for the same price!!! He may have paid $80 more for the 20/30/50 subpanel. In his case wiring was basically negligible because the subpanel happened to be on outside wall just opposite of main circuit panel. I wired my own, but I had to pay about $100 more for wiring, so it was still under $200.
I have 50 amp coach, but if I can pick the months, I can go 4 months with just the 20 amp service and not have a problem. Of course this time of the year, I have to have to have 50 amps to run both ACs at full blast.
Now get this, on occasion, I am at my brothers house and he will allow me to hook into his 50 amps service It is just convenience, not that you should have to do.
Reminds me when some drunk knocked over our brick mailbox, I kicked in extra $60 more out of pocket and got a very nice oversized mailbox versus the standard size mailbox that I had had for years. I had no idea I really needed it, but I can't tell you how many times I have US postal packages safely inside my mailbox (hidden) versus sitting on my front door now.
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07-24-2020, 12:11 AM
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#40
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron1Z
I put a 30 AMP thinking that I will never get another coach, but guess what, bought a coach last week now I wish I had the 50Amp.
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Congratulations!
What did you get?
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