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Old 05-24-2019, 05:52 PM   #21
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The link provided by taylorbob shows whw are 32% off retail right now at cw.
Will the $59 install work for these?

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Old 05-29-2019, 07:58 PM   #22
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I purchase the Bullseyeleveling system on our 2015 24.1 I installed the unit and am very pleased. I decided with this because it’s all electric a motor for each leg, not a bunch of hoses and a pump and all that is associated with those systems.. and of course less weight and they fold up next to the frame not hanging down like others.. you’ll read that the reviews are a bit alarming but the only issue I experienced was a delay in shipping a few weeks..
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:38 PM   #23
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I purchase the Bullseyeleveling system on our 2015 24.1 I installed the unit and am very pleased. I decided with this because it’s all electric a motor for each leg, not a bunch of hoses and a pump and all that is associated with those systems.. and of course less weight and they fold up next to the frame not hanging down like others.. you’ll read that the reviews are a bit alarming but the only issue I experienced was a delay in shipping a few weeks..
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:34 PM   #24
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I purchase the Bullseyeleveling system on our 2015 24.1 I installed the unit and am very pleased. I decided with this because it’s all electric a motor for each leg, not a bunch of hoses and a pump and all that is associated with those systems.. and of course less weight and they fold up next to the frame not hanging down like others.. you’ll read that the reviews are a bit alarming but the only issue I experienced was a delay in shipping a few weeks..

i was scared-off by all the bad reviews
hope your system works flawlessly forever
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:35 PM   #25
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20 yrs. I have never leveled. I do carry two sets of blocks with me. I guess I like wasting storage space. Keep the $$$.
Almost the same for me over 20 years. Rarely need anything — I’m not that particular about being perfectly level. A couple of times used a 2-ft-long 2 X 12 under rear tires on one side, but normally get level sites or find a level area to park on. I primarily carry the 2 X 12 in case I need it for the jack, not for leveling.

It’s another advantage of smaller rigs and those without slides. Easier to find level area within site and no need to be that level. Fridge worked fine if close to level. For me, sleeping determines how level I need the RV to be.

Now that I think about it, the board was used on 30-Ft Cs with long wheelbase. Can’t recall ever using boards on van or shorter 24-ft Cs.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:59 PM   #26
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I agree: it's a job best left to the experts...
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:10 PM   #27
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Best left to experts..only if you have disposable income.. myself that's the beauty of the Bulls Eye Leveling System if you can drill a hole and do basic wiring you will save at least a grand on labor.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:55 PM   #28
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I DIY a single pump, manual, 12K lbs Quadra system. Pay a Craigslist mobile welder $100 to weld the jack and pump mounts then got to work. Took a couple of cold February after work evenings but well worth it. I went with Quadra rather than HWH for the power retract rather than spring retract. Might be a little slower but not much in a camp site that can hold against the pull of 12,000 lbs. I think my final cost wa a bit under $3K back in 2013.

Manual leveling is pretty simple. First level front the back THEN side to side. Jack only work in pairs so I'll set the front or back whichever is the high end then raise the low end to level. Then raise which ever side is low. And done.

Only had one problem so far with a leaking solenoid. Took the suspect o-rings to NAPA and $1.50 later leak was fixed. And only fill the oil tank with the jacks retracted.

If you look closely at the pump there is a switch on the left side. It's an override all jacks retract. As long as you have 12VDC the switch will set all the solenoids for retract and turn the pump on.
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Old 05-29-2019, 11:17 PM   #29
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I had The Equalizers installed on my mh. They work great and I can control them from my smart phone. They are a bit pricey but no return springs are need on them like the HWH system uses.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:35 AM   #30
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It's a case of different strokes for different folks.

We have had good results with the HWH auto kick downs. Our travels involve a lot of different locations. We rarely stay at any one spot more than a week.

If our travels involved staying in one spot for longer stretches, the blocks would be ok. Besides the leveling aspect, we like the stability that the jacks provide. That's especially nice when one of us is sleeping and the other one is walking around.

Another consideration, we plan to keep our coach for several years and we expect to use it for many nights each year. So, the cost/night of the jacks is less than for some, and worth it for us. Your results will vary...
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:19 AM   #31
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Never had leveling jacks with our Gulfstream B Touring Cruiser for the 12 years we had the rig. I carried a set of wood blocks I had cut from scaffold planks either a drive up 2 block or a drive up single block. Worked well enough for the small unit that the B+ was. Now this ACE has the LCI Motorized Plus system on it and I must say it rocks compared to crawling around placing blocks figuring which side and which tire needed how many blocks to level up. In addition the MH doesn't rock and wake up the spouse when I get up for a late night snack. If I were to get rid of this unit I would not go back to a MH without levelers. Just my .02 get the best you can afford. The Lippert system is OK but as it is a Thor factory install I'm sure there are better levelers out there
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Old 05-31-2019, 03:03 AM   #32
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I guess i’ve been lucky because I’ve been able to get by using my Level-mate-pro and a set of Anderson ramps.
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:09 AM   #33
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I guess i’ve been lucky because I’ve been able to get by using my Level-mate-pro and a set of Anderson ramps.
I don’t see the option as ‘getting by’ we can all get by like our rv forefathers. It’s a matter of convenience, simplicity, and saving time. It’s to bad it needs to be weighed against our budgets. 😊
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:37 AM   #34
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Our Forefathers were a much tougher breed...
Time and Technology march on...

My Equalizer system isn't Bluetooth-enable. I think that it was produced right before they added this feature...

The Youth of today has it soooooo... easy!
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:23 PM   #35
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I don’t see the option as ‘getting by’ we can all get by like our rv forefathers. It’s a matter of convenience, simplicity, and saving time. It’s to bad it needs to be weighed against our budgets. 😊
You hit the nail on the head. BUDGET is the key factor.
Yes, we’ve come a long way from camping in a canvas tent to the Motorhomes of today. But, then, as now, budget was the controlling factor.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:32 PM   #36
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OK, we're picking up a brand new Vegas 24.1 next week. Debating between leveling systems. I've read too many threads dealing with this, some very old, some get off topic, etc. Please understand that I am NOT the person who is going to "trial and error" with blocks on the ground; my apologies if that sounds lazy, but I know my limitations.

A quick ten second reply will be great, if you would appease me. Should I go with:

A. Bigfoot (about an hour away, $4200 all in for fully automatic)

B. HWH (about an hour away, $4500 all in for fully automatic)

C. Something else (please share what that might be!)

D. None at all, haven't needed them.

Thanks for your quick reply!

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I installed the Bigfoot manual system. It pre levels and then you take it front there if needed. Works great and good investment. I had a professional install it.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:45 PM   #37
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The third alternative

Drive on blocks are an inexpensive nuisance, and hydraulic or electric lifts are an expensive convenience, but there is a middle choice: scissor jacks ($100) and a big cordless DeWalt Joist and Stud Drill ($400). My Vegas 24.1 has a scissor jack at each corner and that DeWalt drill will lift the wheels off the ground.
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:09 PM   #38
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I don’t think the jacks are designed for leveling more so for stabilization. I have a Vegas 24.1 2018, but it doesn’t have stabilizing jacks.
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:13 PM   #39
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I installed the Bigfoot manual system. It pre levels and then you take it front there if needed. Works great and good investment. I had a professional install it.
That's what I'm having put on this Thursday. Having it done right at the manufacturer in White Pigeon MI.
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I don’t think the jacks are designed for leveling more so for stabilization. I have a Vegas 24.1 2018, but it doesn’t have stabilizing jacks.
What are you referring 2?
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